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    K e l l y , I don't remember in which program I took some rest days when it became too hard for me, those days restarted my body and yes, my muscles improved in spite of those extra rest days.Take one if you need it !

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      Don't be discouraged! Irs designed to be hard. And that's a lot of volume. I mean it's also ok to have ups and downs. I can do clapping push ups and in Monday's kickboxing class I was doing push ups from my freaking knees. my shoulders were not gonna have any of that. But I still think I made progress as my muscles were burning and fatigued. So I pushed them to grow. (Idk if grows the right word)
      Also I think I'm pretty damn fit. No one would say I was mediocre. And I think I'd struggle with the Spartans trails. I'm not sure I could do gravity to be honest. Everyone's bodies are different.
      anyways like twinkletoes said don't think too much on it. You really are doing great.

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        Originally posted by twinkletoes View Post
        If you look at day 15 (not 19, that one hat a different set of exercises), you'll see that you did progress. Plus, you weren't sure if you did four or only three sets for Part 1 back then, so if you didn't do the right amount of sets, that would explain the trouble with today's progression.
        Ok, so looking at day 15 (you're right I'm mixing up my days) I did level two on the second part for 250 each. Today I did 180. The extra bicep curls today can't possibly account for such a large difference, it's not my biceps that limit me during the second set of exercises.

        Unless I did level one and don't remember...

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          I did level one.

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            Ok. I'm over it.

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              See!

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                The Spartan Trials are a difficult program, no matter how you look at it. I've even seen very fit bees who've already done it once come back to it and try it again. I know I would benefit from it if I were to do it all over again (and I did Strength Protocol twice, which is officially a level 4 program).

                The thing is, I'm pretty sure that difficulty levels indicate the technical difficulty of some exercises rather than the effort you will need to complete the workout (which is subjective and can vary depending on your current energy level, not just your overall fitness).

                Case in point: I recently did 2 upper body workouts based on push-ups and punches - Popeye and Power Punch.
                Popeye is a level 4 ("hard") workout. Power Punch is level 3 ("normal").
                I did both workouts at level 3 with EC.

                Well, Power Punch felt much harder, and gave me DOMS in my chest for two days (whereas Popeye felt short and fun).
                The main difference is, Popeye has clapping push-ups, which makes it technically harder. If you can't do them, you won't be able to complete a single set. Hence its "hard" rating.
                Power Punch is based on more standard exercises, which means even relative beginners can give it a go. BUT it's still hard if you do 7 sets.

                neilarey, is this a correct assumption? Or do I have it wrong somewhere?

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                  Originally posted by Redline View Post
                  The Spartan Trials are a difficult program, no matter how you look at it. I've even seen very fit bees who've already done it once come back to it and try it again. I know I would benefit from it if I were to do it all over again (and I did Strength Protocol twice, which is officially a level 4 program).

                  The thing is, I'm pretty sure that difficulty levels indicate the technical difficulty of some exercises rather than the effort you will need to complete the workout (which is subjective and can vary depending on your current energy level, not just your overall fitness).

                  Case in point: I recently did 2 upper body workouts based on push-ups and punches - Popeye and Power Punch.
                  Popeye is a level 4 ("hard") workout. Power Punch is level 3 ("normal").
                  I did both workouts at level 3 with EC.

                  Well, Power Punch felt much harder, and gave me DOMS in my chest for two days (whereas Popeye felt short and fun).
                  The main difference is, Popeye has clapping push-ups, which makes it technically harder. If you can't do them, you won't be able to complete a single set. Hence its "hard" rating.
                  Power Punch is based on more standard exercises, which means even relative beginners can give it a go. BUT it's still hard if you do 7 sets.

                  neilarey, is this a correct assumption? Or do I have it wrong somewhere?
                  This is a conclusion I made a while back too. Spot on if you ask me.

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                    I honestly think difficulty levels have to do with "can you try this without falling on your face/ass and getting injured in set 1" then anything else, really >.>

                    I looked at Spartan trials and have put it off till I can at least do chinups, bc, I know myself.....I would feel like a fraud/failure using just dumbells here.

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                      OMG, I thought exactly the same as 'rin about Spartan Trials! But lately I switched my thinking to "First, I'll do it with dumbells as a build up to chin-ups/pull-ups and THEN I will do pull-ups like a BOSS in 2nd try" and I will do the Trials after new program with dumbells
                      Anyway, I agree with Redline (again!? you are very wise indeed ) about level in effort vs technical difficulty battle.

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                        Originally posted by 'rin View Post
                        .....I would feel like a fraud/failure using just dumbells here.
                        Well THIS never occurred to me thanks, thanks a lot*.

                        *Teasing. Mostly.

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                          Originally posted by K e l l y View Post

                          Well THIS never occurred to me thanks, thanks a lot*.

                          *Teasing. Mostly.
                          Gah. Sorry. I hope you realize that I am harder on MYSELF then is reasonable, by any standards anywhere in the known universe. I would never hold even my worst enemy up to said standards, let alone someone I like >.>

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                            Originally posted by 'rin View Post

                            Gah. Sorry. I hope you realize that I am harder on MYSELF then is reasonable, by any standards anywhere in the known universe. I would never hold even my worst enemy up to said standards, let alone someone I like >.>
                            No worries, I do realize this. Just had to give you some shit

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                              Spartan Day 24
                              Today, I gave myself a break. Several reasons but the main one was that I was going to just skip the whole day. So me, myself and I had a conversation and agreed that level one on part one (jumping lunges, looking at you ) would be an acceptable compromise. Part two, one minute each leg, better balance than last time. Part three, 90 seconds sounded good to all three of us too.

                              I don't want to go back to work tomorrow

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                                Originally posted by K e l l y View Post
                                I don't want to go back to work tomorrow


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