Conflicting information about Intermittent fasting

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    Conflicting information about Intermittent fasting

    So for the 16/8 method, you set an eating window that is 8 hours. These are the same hours of the day for each day. In the 16 hours I can drink unlimted tea and water. Now here is the part that gets confusing, some people say you can eat unlimited calories in the 8 hour window even if you eat 8 meals for each hour, others say you have to eat twice with 1 meal at the start of the window and 1 at the end of it, while yet another will say you can eat 3 meals with the middle one being small. So I have a question, can I drink nother but teas and water (I don't like milk or sugar) for the 16 hours, and then eat 2 meals ANYWHERE in that 8 hour window? Like can I eat at 8 PM and midnight, go to sleep and not eat again till 8 PM? or is the times you sleep also a factor for what it does to the body and thus needs to be certain time from last meal?

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    If I understand correctly, you are worried about how to space your meals during the 8-hr window. Certainly, you can't eat unlimited amount of calories. Although, I would like that very much.
    Having your meals broken 3 ways, would mean you're eating less but frequently, which seems to be the best case scenario. An alternate is to have only light meals planned before bedtime. For instance, I like to break my fast with heavy meals, at noon and then try to have a light dinner (sometimes only soup) by 8pm.
    Sleep does factor in your digestive process. In your sleep, you want your body to work on cellular repair and not on active digestion. So try to have your last meal 3hrs before bedtime. If you dont, the calories aren't burnt and you gotta extend your fasting window more than the 16hrs.
    Hope I helped.

    PS: couldn't read your timings, as they are converted to smileys.

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      #3
      Originally posted by adi928 View Post
      If I understand correctly, you are worried about how to space your meals during the 8-hr window. Certainly, you can't eat unlimited amount of calories. Although, I would like that very much.
      Having your meals broken 3 ways, would mean you're eating less but frequently, which seems to be the best case scenario. An alternate is to have only light meals planned before bedtime. For instance, I like to break my fast with heavy meals, at noon and then try to have a light dinner (sometimes only soup) by 8pm.
      Sleep does factor in your digestive process. In your sleep, you want your body to work on cellular repair and not on active digestion. So try to have your last meal 3hrs before bedtime. If you dont, the calories aren't burnt and you gotta extend your fasting window more than the 16hrs.
      Hope I helped.

      PS: couldn't read your timings, as they are converted to smileys.
      So if calories still have to be controlled, would there be a significat difference if one eats 1500 calories a day without fasting VS 1500 calories a day with fasting over the period of 6 months? or is fasting only for people who feel hungry and are more prone to overeat?

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        #4
        I am doing 18/6 for more than a year now. I see the idea behind IF more in giving your body time to do stuff other than digesting food than a diet to loose weight. I eat a muesli at noon, a shake with whey and the occasional banana around 15:00 and dinner around 17:00. I go to bed around midnight.
        If you overeat (= more calorie intake than output) you gain weight no matter if you eat it in one meal (OMAD, good luck overeating) or 5 in your eating-window. For people prone to overeating it might help, to control their intake over a relativly short period of time, though.
        You also learn not to eat everytime you feel like it. After a while you are no longer hungry.
        IMHO a part of the reason for the widespread obesity nowadays is, that the food industry successfully destroyed the regular meal cycles (breakfast, lunch, dinner) with the invention of the snack. When I was a kid (60's- mid 70's) and I was hungry between meals, it was:' Eat an apple' or 'Drink some water'. Sodas were the exception not the rule.
        So doing IF and stuffing oneself with junkfood and sodas for 8 hours is also not a good idea.

        tl;dr: IF gives your body time to clean house, keeps the insulin low, makes you less feeling hungry and gives you better control over your caloric intake. Don't eat junkfood and sodas. If overweight, count your calories.
        BTW:
        You can also drink black coffee.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Andi64 View Post
          I am doing 18/6 for more than a year now. I see the idea behind IF more in giving your body time to do other stuff than digesting food as a diet to loose weight.
          If you overeat (= more calorie intake than output) you gain weight no matter if you eat it in one meal (OMAD, good luck overeating) or 5 in your eating-window. For people prone to overating it might help to just have to control their intake over a relativly short period of time, though.
          You also learn not to eat everytime you feel like it. After a while you are no longer hungry.
          IMHO a part of the reason for the widespread obesity nowadays is, that the food industry successfully destroyed the regular meal cycles (breakfast, lunch, dinner) with the invention of the snack. When I was a kid (60's- mid 70's) and I was hungry between meals, it was:' Eat an apple' or 'Drink some water'. Sodas were the exception not the rule.
          So doing IF and stuffing oneself with junkfood and sodas for 8 hours is also not a good idea.

          tl;dr: IF gives your body time to clean house, keeps the insulin low, makes you less feeling hungry and gives you better control over your caloric intake. Don't eat junkfood and sodas. If overweight, count your calories.
          You can drink black coffee.
          Aaaah, so the fact I already wake up at 9 AM, eat breakfast then only eat again at 8 PM won't have any effects on weight loss if I started intermittent fasting as I would be having the same amount of intake anyway, I was under the impression it somehow increased weight loss (not sure how, I have no education in such a field). So the best way for weight loss is still to just not eat over X calories (such as using Modern Hero Mealplan). Thank you for the information.

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            #6
            Originally posted by spoonroot View Post

            So if calories still have to be controlled, would there be a significat difference if one eats 1500 calories a day without fasting VS 1500 calories a day with fasting over the period of 6 months? or is fasting only for people who feel hungry and are more prone to overeat?
            The idea of fasting is to reduce glucose in blood, this way, you force your body to find an alternative source of energy, which is fat. I do 16/8 IF but I'm not an expert to explain the complicated process of ketosis.

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              #7
              Originally posted by spoonroot View Post

              Aaaah, so the fact I already wake up at 9 AM, eat breakfast then only eat again at 8 PM won't have any effects on weight loss if I started intermittent fasting as I would be having the same amount of intake anyway, I was under the impression it somehow increased weight loss (not sure how, I have no education in such a field). So the best way for weight loss is still to just not eat over X calories (such as using Modern Hero Mealplan). Thank you for the information.
              Exactly. Your caloric intake should be less than what your body needs. Keep in mind that training consumes calories too, so both combined will help you lose weight.

              The fasting should be continuous, no shouldn’t break it. Any type of food, except for water, black coffee and tea (no sugar nor sweeteners), will trigger insulin.

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                #8
                IF is a good way to feel full while losing weight. It can be used for maintenance and bulking as well and while it is fine for maintenance it is hard to eat enough to bulk while doing IF. One of the key factors is you condense your amount of food into bigger meals. 1500 calories across a 12 hour day isn't much but if you compress that into 6 or 8 hours then suddenly your meals are bigger and your satiety goes up. Higher satiety leads to better diet success.

                The thing you want to avoid is carbs and protein (both will convert to glycogen and break the fast) but fats (small dose, think single serving of cream with coffee) and artificial sweeteners are fine as they won't cause an insulin response.

                There is a lot of extra claims with IF but the best way to do it is keep it simple. Keep hydrated during the fast (water, tea, black coffee, diet soda) and find a time period that fits you and your life schedule. I did breakfast through afternoon snack for about 5 years. 16/8 to 18/6 was my perfect window, anything near 20 hours without food and I would try to kill people. Have fun with it and experiment, it is a good way to relearn hungry signals and you personal eating pattern.

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