What's the thinking on situps?

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    What's the thinking on situps?

    Reading lost these days that situps are both ineffective core exercises and not safe for the back. I don't have a problem with situps as long as I lock my feet under something, but what's the thinking on substituting something else for them?

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    Hanging leg raises and all their mutations (knee raises, twists for the obliques...) are great core excercises that don't put strain on your back.. A certain level of fitness is needed, since you have to hang through the excercise and cannot just lay on your back, but in exchange, you train your forearms for free.
    You need a pull-up bar. But if you don' t have one yet, it's time to get one.
    I don't think anchoring your feet is a good idea, because then you mostly target your hip flexors and not your abs.
    Try crunches with legs in a 90° angel, like your calves where up on a chair or like this. You will feel the difference.

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      #3
      I have learned that if you have to tug your feet underneath something, or if you like to lay with your legs straight instead of bent before sitting up, you are likely using your hip flexors instead of your ab muscles. Then you easily get lower back pain because that muscle attaches to your lumbar spine and you pull your torso up with it in every sit ups. What's worse is when you don't tighten your core (not tugging your back to the ground).

      So you don't really get to train your abs besides health issue. With crunches you are less likely to activate your hip flexors because you don't get so high up, but you still need to feel it at your abs when you crunch.

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        #4
        Andi64 I doubt if those hanging leg raises always train your abs. You can still be using the hip flexor for the movements, right? I haven't done any of those, so I can't tell.

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          #5
          kandy I do them twice a week. It depends how high you lift your butt, If you just raise your legs, the hip flexors are targeted too, if you lift your butt too, it's all in the abs. Go ahead an try, instant understanding guaranteed

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            #6
            That's a great video Andi64 ! I do a decent amount of work on my hip flexors...they are my friends. The oblique variation was cool.

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              #7
              Io6 Don't forget to 'show your butt'

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                #8
                my glutes deserve showing off, partner says they're my best feature Andi64

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                  #9
                  Sit-ups done slowly, without haste, do not create problems for me and although they are not considered effective in abs training, it is a very useful functional exercise. There are many other exercises considered more performing and effective for training abs, but the basis for me is sit-ups.


                  A special mention to Io6's glutes

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                    #10
                    I feel I should apologise to Salishsea for the unintentional turn in this thread

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