Bulking for Skinny People/Hard Gainers?

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    #16
    Nihopaloa wishful thinking! You're right actually, going from the "one cup" which turns out to be approx. 1/3 lt to 100ml led to a mistake. Thank you so much for spotting it!

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      #17
      Originally posted by Damer View Post
      Nihopaloa wishful thinking! You're right actually, going from the "one cup" which turns out to be approx. 1/3 lt to 100ml led to a mistake. Thank you so much for spotting it!
      Ah, damn, and here I've hoped for an easily accessible source of protein
      Thanks for your clarification

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        #18
        So, would three workouts a day be terrible? Like one strength body weight, one weight lifting strength, and one HIIT/combat?

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          #19
          Why do you want to do three sessions a day?

          I think you'll find it counter productive for what you want to achieve. One or two training sessions a day and adequate food and rest will be beneficial; three sub par training sessions per day, with inadequate nutrition and rest is pretty much the opposite of what you're trying to achieve.

          Choose a program (be it free weights or body weights), do the programs days as written (be it a three, four, five or 6 day split), eat an adequate amount of food and stick with it for at least three-six months. Track your food intake, monitor your weight gain weekly/monthly, take progress shots every month and see what happens. Once you have a base line then start adjusting the program/food as required.

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            #20
            What about doing something like Power-Up (program), Ironborn, and one of the core programs?

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              #21
              A calorie surplus is more important than doing three programs.

              Eat enough, do one or two programs with great form at a suitable intensity, and get enough rest.

              Ultimately it's your choice to follow or ignore the advice people have given you.
              People like Baston, Scorpionking and a few others round the hive have achieved the goals you're wanting to achieve; Baston gave you some pretty solid advice.
              If I were you, I'd follow his advice for a solid six months to a year, take progress shots and measurements every few weeks and see what happens. If by the end of that period you're happy with the results, keep following it. If you're not, change up what you're doing.

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                #22
                If you want to gain mass, you might want to focus on heavy lifting for like an hour a day max (with recovery days). Doing too much cardio might be burning off too many calories.

                I've only gained a few pounds (starting @ 150) after counting calories for about a month (intaking ~3000 calories). I intentionally reduced my cardio and increased my heavy lifting and I feel that's what I needed to gain even a few pounds. Eating many days feels like a chore to get to 3000 but I'm getting better at it.

                My other advice is go for it anyway? I had no intuition about my body and screwing up a bit helps me find my limits. If you feel any pain or injury (besides DOMS) audit yourself honestly and take a break until you're healed. If you injure or go too overboard depression can sneak in during recovery so just try to be nice if anything hurts (joint pain, sharp pain, whatever). Doing too much might reveal the balance you need which is in my opinion a valid way to sort things out. Sounds like you're fired up so push as hard as you can and report back.

                Ironborn + ~3000 calories daily for at least 1 month would be where I'd start in your shoes though. I'd jog a 2-3 times a week max. Core work is fine but your focus (I think) should be heavy lifting then resting while eating like crazy (healthy tho). If you have access to dumbbells discover the correct weight for each exercise during ironborn (for example my lat raises are really weak but I can curl 6 times as much). Pick the weight where you can just finish sets for each motion.

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                  #23
                  Maybe I'll just stick to doing Ironborn and Total Core or whatever it was called. I'm going to quit running, but would definitely like to pick up muscle as quick as possible. I realize it'll still take a while but any way to speed up the muscle building process is better.

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                    #24
                    I also have started a workout log, so if you all would like to follow me on my journey then have at it

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by SamFlynn82 View Post
                      I also have started a workout log, so if you all would like to follow me on my journey then have at it
                      You can put the link right on your profile too so it shows up as "check-in thread" link button. I'll be following because gaining is really hard for me also. I'm refactoring my program which is around learning the gym I just joined but ironborn is also on my list longer term. Once I have a trainer at the gym check my program I'll post more about it (my check-in thread has my current rotation but I haven't been through a full week of it yet so not 100% sure about it).

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