Pyramid Training, is it true?

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    Pyramid Training, is it true?

    Hi DAREBEEs,
    I saw this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfOezxy0d70 and I like FitnessFAQs actually
    but I don't know how credible is that method .. anyone have any experience about it?

    #2
    Pyramid is a great form of high intensity training. If that's your thing - try it out, it definitely works.
    There are some workouts on Darebee that use similar principle.

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      #3
      If you want to work on strength is OK!!! (i.e. great)
      It's not bulk oriented (i.e. hypertrophy)

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        #4
        Originally posted by thepresident View Post
        If you want to work on strength is OK!!! (i.e. great)
        It's not bulk oriented (i.e. hypertrophy)
        Aha, and I don't think Bodyweight can focus hypertrophy .. am I correct?

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          #5
          Originally posted by J3ster View Post
          Pyramid is a great form of high intensity training. If that's your thing - try it out, it definitely works.
          There are some workouts on Darebee that use similar principle.
          Thanks for the reference

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            #6
            Originally posted by iNTEl View Post

            Aha, and I don't think Bodyweight can focus hypertrophy .. am I correct?
            Dumbbels, cable row and machine are best, since, in this way, you can focus your work better on the specific muscle groups.

            Anyway, using bodyweight training for hypertrophy is difficult since it's hard to find the exercise variation, which is challenging and allows to do the exact numbers of reps (i.e. 8-12) per set

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              #7
              Originally posted by iNTEl View Post

              Aha, and I don't think Bodyweight can focus hypertrophy .. am I correct?
              No. You might find this vid helpful.

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                #8
                J3ster ... not sure I'd want to talk with this guy about my physical regimen.
                He starts by saying "... adding massive muscle ...", which is not at ALL something I care about. I want to be fit ... and, preferably, not fat.
                Moving along, he says diet can't help you build muscle.
                This is ... "true"?
                Your diet can limit the amount of muscle you can build. Thus, changes to your diet can allow you to build more muscle.
                But ... if you have a good diet, no dietary change or supplement will help you build more muscle. In that, he is correct.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DaithiMeyer View Post
                  J3ster ... not sure I'd want to talk with this guy about my physical regimen.
                  He starts by saying "... adding massive muscle ...", which is not at ALL something I care about. I want to be fit ... and, preferably, not fat.
                  Moving along, he says diet can't help you build muscle.
                  This is ... "true"?
                  Your diet can limit the amount of muscle you can build. Thus, changes to your diet can allow you to build more muscle.
                  But ... if you have a good diet, no dietary change or supplement will help you build more muscle. In that, he is correct.
                  1) The question I was answering was about building mass with calisthenics.
                  2) Diet does not build muscle - diet supports muscle building. Eating food does not tell your body "well, you are full, so it's time build muscle now" - instruction for your adaptation comes from your training regimen / workouts and only from there.

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                    #10
                    You said:
                    1) The question I was answering was about building mass with calisthenics.
                    2) Diet does not build muscle - diet supports muscle building. Eating food does not tell your body "well, you are full, so it's time build muscle now" - instruction for your adaptation comes from your training regimen / workouts and only from there.
                    Your first point is moot. Not really part of the conversation. You are correct in your observation, but so am I. I guess I should apologize, though, for bringing it up.
                    Your second point, though, suggests you are arguing against my point and favoring his.
                    Which further suggests I was disagreeing with him.
                    My disagreement was with his language, more than his understanding.
                    A bad diet, one with lots of sugar and not much protein, can limit the amount of muscle you can build. Changing your diet to one which provides adequate resources will allow your body to build the muscle your exercise says it should. The diet does not "build muscle" - which is what he said - but does allow your body to build more. And, what you said about that is spot on - eating does not tell your body "time to build muscle, now".

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by DaithiMeyer View Post
                      You said:
                      Your first point is moot. Not really part of the conversation. You are correct in your observation, but so am I. I guess I should apologize, though, for bringing it up.
                      Your second point, though, suggests you are arguing against my point and favoring his.
                      Which further suggests I was disagreeing with him.
                      My disagreement was with his language, more than his understanding.
                      A bad diet, one with lots of sugar and not much protein, can limit the amount of muscle you can build. Changing your diet to one which provides adequate resources will allow your body to build the muscle your exercise says it should. The diet does not "build muscle" - which is what he said - but does allow your body to build more. And, what you said about that is spot on - eating does not tell your body "time to build muscle, now".
                      1) Er, what? You come into a conversation about building muscle with calisthenics and say "I don't want to build muscle" - that was a moot point, right there.

                      2) He said, and I quote "... There's absolutely nothing in your diet that makes (!) you build muscle... "
                      He then says "however, the reason diet is important is because it supports workout and that is what builds muscle". It's not about favoring any points - you can't build muscle with diets, period.

                      Think about it this way - diet provides building materials for your muscles - and it's very important. But bricks themselves don't build the house. You also need the plan, and workouts are exactly that - a blueprint of how your body should change to accommodate for specific demands you put it through.

                      I think you simply misinterpreted the message.

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                        #12
                        J3ster DaithiMeyer


                        Guys, calm down .. it's okay and both of you had expressed himself, so please let's cut the argument since it will lead to nowhere.

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                          #13
                          iNTEl Hello man, good question, and good vid.

                          So first let me say that is definitly possible to build an impressive physique and a good amount of muscle mass with calisthenics, altough weights are faster and can you give the best results if you really want to be big (of course nutrition and genetics also play a big role on this)

                          Secondly i do a lot of Pyrimad/Ladder training, and honestly it is my favorite methodology, speccially for hypertrophy, this type of training gives you a lot of TUT and usually and it is very demanding on the muscles. To gain muscle with calisthenics i do think this is the best way to do so, for strength, not so much

                          Altough you will develop strength and ramp up your reps this is not the best way to do it, this type of training is strenous on the muscles and usually leads to fatigue, wich is not the optimal for strentgh training.
                          For strength you should do 85/90% of your 1Rep Max, or when it is bodyweight workout, choosing an exercise that where you can only do 1 to 4 reps, and then rest for about 10 minutes and repeat, i advise you to read Pavel Tatsoulini on this one, Grease the Groove.

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