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    Thank you so much, sleep_twitch Louve rose Redline lpf xingyiquan HellYeah80 !!!

    I'm still feeling better than in the weeks leading up to Christmas, and the work day yesterday went okay, even though I get tired more easily. Lili's cold seems to be getting better again, but after four weeks of up-and-down I won't jinx it by being too secure about that. She's still not 100%, the best evidence for which is her behaviour outside. Usually, I'll take her to the playground, put her down and say "go!" - and then she goes. Now she starts to complain when I put her down, hugs my legs and wants to be picked up. On a good day she'll stand on her own two feet and watch other kids for a few minutes. No swings, no slide, which she usually loves (especially the swings). She also needs to be picked up and cuddled and carried way more than usually, which can get exhausting. But we had a few pretty good nights, so I'm not complaining (too much).

    Workout-wise, I did two more days of Epic 5 and at least looked at day 18 or what it was of 30 Days of Strength, but didn't feel I had it in me. I guess it was okay to take a break after being sick and really exhausted around Christmas, and now I'm debating what to do next. Continuing with strength may not be the best choice right now. I'm actually considering 90DoA. It sounds kind of crazy to commit to something that long-term at this point, but it's a difficulty II program and home cardio can be adjusted (as in, high knees can be "easy jogging in place") when I get heavier. Which I would do without shame. Or almost. The stretching days won't be a problem, and abs exercises won't have to be adjusted for a few weeks yet. After that, I can do planks, inclined if necessary, instead of crunches and sit-ups (it's only the concentric abs stuff that shouldn't be done after week 20 or so). And if I keep myself motivated, I could be done by late april, that is, still before the "absurd" stage, when Foundation light may again be my friend.
    I have a day more to decide, though, because it's practice today. Finally telling people will be a relief because everybody will know why I do some stuff half-assedly. I also told my boss on the phone yesterday, which is a good thing because I'm starting to show. Of course, master knows already. He knew we wanted a second baby and he can read body language and, I'm sure, was in the know as soon as I started jumping more carefully.

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      Originally posted by MissSmilla View Post
      I'm actually considering 90DoA. It sounds kind of crazy to commit to something that long-term at this point, but it's a difficulty II program
      Well, officially, sure. It actually swings between "easy-peasy" and "wait, I've seen difficulty III workouts that were easier than that". That's part of the charm of it, I guess - at least it never gets boring or repetitive. Not to say you shouldn't go for it - just don't expect a walk in the park all the time.

      And virtual hugs for Lili, if that can help her get better for good.

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        Originally posted by Redline View Post
        Well, officially, sure. It actually swings between "easy-peasy" and "wait, I've seen difficulty III workouts that were easier than that". That's part of the charm of it, I guess - at least it never gets boring or repetitive. Not to say you shouldn't go for it - just don't expect a walk in the park all the time.
        That's good to know, thank you Redline ! Maybe I'll just go for it. Even though right now I'm not feeling like it, if this pregnancy is anything like the last, there should be a phase of normal energy and motivation levels coming.

        Originally posted by Redline View Post
        And virtual hugs for Lili, if that can help her get better for good.
        Thank you, she loves hugs. She'll wipe her runny nose on your shoulder, though.

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          Originally posted by MissSmilla View Post
          She'll wipe her runny nose on your shoulder, though.
          Ah, what the hell. I've had two babies. It takes more to scare me.

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            Originally posted by Redline View Post
            Ah, what the hell. I've had two babies. It takes more to scare me.
            Yes, I should have figured For some reason, babies and toddlers generate a cuteness field that makes even their snot be not disgusting. Of course, they also cause laundry in themselves and others.

            I started with 90DoA yesterday and did a relaxed level I because I had slight DOMS from practice on tuesday. Let me tell you, it felt SO GOOD to actually be sore again after weeks and weeks of only tired, slightly nauseaus, fatigued, short of breath, and of course exhausted. Of course, I didn't do any jumping, just a little bouncing, and left out the higher-impact stuff, but I still felt so much better than in the pre-Christmas weeks. Today it's sanda practice, which for me will mean practicing the tao lu (no holding pads and no kicking or punching anything, certainly no sparring). And that's such a good thing. The current tao lu is a tai chi one with very flowy and often strange-feeling movements which requires a lot of coordination and is also pretty long. Or will be, we're not that advanced yet. Anyway, it's a challenge to all of us, so the extra practice time will come in handy. And, of course, it's very pregnancy-friendly.

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              OMG guess what my poor little baby has? The whooping cough. Of all things. My husband took her to the doctor's on friday, just to get her lungs and bronchae checked out because we felt the cold was a little too persistent, and today we called the lab and voilĂ , whooping cough. Yes, she's been vaccinated, but apparently that "only" works in 80-90% of cases. Fortunately vaccinated kids have a good chance that it takes a good course (as in, without the "classic" bouts of scary coughing with the whooping and not sleeping for weeks on end) and I hope now that we're treating it (they gave us the antibiotics on friday so we could start treating her as soon as we knew) it should improve quickly. It's about time we got our little girl back, she really hasn't been herself for weeks now. I got vaccinated a little after Lili's birth and have no symptoms so far, so I should be fine, but as a rule, my husband and I should also take a course of antibiotics as a precaution and to stop other people getting infected (that's how bad the illness is). I'll clear that with my ob/gyn tomorrow, though. I'm not taking medication if it's not really necessary. Interestingly, my husband already is taking antibiotics for a strep throat, so he'll have to ask the doctor tomorrow as well. So that happened today. I have to say, I was a bit shocked, and still am. I also spent some time calling people Lili was in contact with in the last few weeks - turns out the first stage, where symptoms are cold-like and unspecific, is the most contagious. My dad already has cold symptoms, and the timing (typical incubation period: 10-11 days, time since they arrived here: 10 days) works out. So he's going to the doctor's tomorrow as well. Apparently this s*** is so contagious that, according to the official site here, if contact occurs between an infected and an unprotected individual, the latter is "almost certain" to be infected. Darn it. Here's hoping that my mom's vaccination, which happened more than 10 years ago, is still good for some reason.
              Ironically, last night the three of us slept completely through the night because Lili did not cough at all. I'm so glad she's been vaccinated and so glad the doctor caught it early when there's still sense in treating it. So I'm not even all that worried about her, it's more like, darn it, whooping cough, that's something you read about in old novels, I thought we were kind of over that???

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                Healing thoughts for Lili !

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                  I'm really sorry to hear that. Hopefully it won't last, and/or the treatment will kick in soon.

                  Originally posted by MissSmilla View Post
                  it's more like, darn it, whooping cough, that's something you read about in old novels, I thought we were kind of over that???
                  Well, for the record, I had the whooping cough about 7 years ago. Which is why I know how bad it feels, and I really hope your poor girl gets over it quickly.
                  At the time, my GP explained to me that as an adult, my vaccination was out of date, and even though she usually didn't have to treat children for it, every now and then she'd diagnose it in an older person. She didn't say anything about it being so contagious, though. Either there are several "versions" of the disease, and I didn't have the same as Lili has now, or she thought it was too late to worry.

                  Anyway, fingers crossed. I'm sure you'll all be okay, I just hope you won't have to wait too long before you actually are.

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                    Healing vibes, hope that goes by soon!

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                      I'm looking forward to when we can have a "whoop whoop" for your family being past the whooping cough - hope that comes soon!

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                        Thank you very much Louve rose Redline HellYeah80 and Kaufminator (your comment really made me smile!)! We spent another very good night. Lili only woke up once (or maybe didn't quite wake up) and my husband was able to soothe her just by reaching down and patting her. (Right now she's sleeping on a mattress next to our bed, to combine Lili-care with the maximum amount of parent chances of sleep.)

                        Originally posted by Redline View Post
                        Well, for the record, I had the whooping cough about 7 years ago. Which is why I know how bad it feels, and I really hope your poor girl gets over it quickly.
                        At the time, my GP explained to me that as an adult, my vaccination was out of date, and even though she usually didn't have to treat children for it, every now and then she'd diagnose it in an older person. She didn't say anything about it being so contagious, though. Either there are several "versions" of the disease, and I didn't have the same as Lili has now, or she thought it was too late to worry.
                        Probably the latter. Or she knows you and your family and that your kids are vaccinated (I lost track of how old they are, one may well have been in the most vulnerable age then?) Also, different countries seem to have different protocols/policies to deal with this. A little like vaccination recommendations and schedules can vary between countries. Here, officials have to be informed of each case (which makes it feel more scary), but only since 2013. But the thing about the vaccination being too long ago apparently happens a lot - they thought for quite a while that protection lasted for about 10 years, but now they know it's more like 4-6 and are recommending that any time an adult receives a tetanus shot for whatever reason, the doctor should consider using a combination vaccine with whooping cough. They also state that this recommendation is not being followed very well. Unfunny fact: the infection itself does not provide longer immunity than the shot - you can get the whooping cough more than once.

                        But really, don't worry! What with Lili's vaccination being very much up to date and the doctor apparently catching it kind of early, chances are it won't get worse - and it's not really that bad now (the coughing part - Lili is still out of sorts, even though she seems somewhat more energetic and cheerful). The stories you hear are of up to 50 coughing fits in one night, and these are "coughing the soul out of your body" (as they say here) bad. They are "holding your child and worrying they might not get enough air" bad. We luckily had nothing like that so far and now with the medication I hope we won't. I'm very thankful for the doctor for even thinking of it (vaccinated kid, rather unspecific symptoms), but to be fair, she probably caught it in her surgery when my husband went to get Lili's cold checked out in december and there was a mom bringing in her kid with whooping cough after being specifically told on the phone to come in alone.

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                          healing vibes for the little girl!

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                            Whooping cough really sucks! I caught it as a kid (I wasn't vaccinated because there was some issue with the vaccine at that time and the doctor recommended to wait until the new version becomes available) and my mom still tells the story about being afraid we might infect all the neighborhood kids and not sleeping for days due to my coughing fits. Here's some healing vibes for Lili, hoping she's 100% back to normal soon!

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                              Turns out I have a co-worker whose 2 young grandchildren in Germany also have whooping cough right now. Is there something going on in Germany?!

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                                Thank you guys so much for all the support and good vibes! Lili is done taking her anbitiotic as of saturday night, and she's mostly back to normal, except going to bed has become quite a dramatic - and long - affair in the last few days. Don't know what's going on there. About the whooping cough we really got let off easy, no terrible coughing fits at all, it really just felt like a very persistent cold with a very out-of-sorts kid.

                                Kaufminator I have no idea - I guess it just happens now and then because the vaccine isn't 100%, it's so highly contagious, and because many adults lose their protection and then infect people. Or something. I hope your coworker's grandkids have been vaccinated and have a very light form of it as well!

                                Other than that, my energy levels are continuing better than before (though not normal) and there's no nausea at all anymore, which is a relief. Tuesday we found out that we'll have another little girl. It would have been fine either way, but somehow knowing makes it more real. She was very active during the ultrasound and she's just the right size for her gestational age, so everything looks fine. I'm in the beginning of week 16, so middle of the fourth month - and I'm definitely showing. It's strange, I'm almost 3kg lighter than I was at this time two years ago, but if I wanted to keep my pregnancy a secret, it would involve really big sweaters and a lot of hunching. And even then. My body also feels different. I'm already reducing the ab work, even though I don't have to yet, just because it's uncomfortable sometimes. I guess I'm more realistic going into the whole birth-and-recovery thing this time as I've learned a few lessons the first time around. 1. My fitness level has very little to do with how easy or hard labour will be (it did help me in the very first days of recovery though, and I'll to my best to stay as fit as possible). 2. Recovery will probably take even longer this time around as everything is already looser and I will have two kids to take care of instead of one. Lili was 10 months old when I felt fully myself again when kicking, and jumping has stayed a little of an issue. 3. Recovery can be helped by doing the prescribed exercises, but cannot be forced. Some stuff cannot be done by training but will happen in its own sweet time. It will take months, maybe a year or more. But I will get there. And I will run again, and if it takes until both kids are in school.

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