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    don't let yourself drag down Matan ... may be you could work on parts that you tend to usually work less like forearms, backwards bending, hips at least to keep going and not to live the injuries like a falling back

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      I feel you, Matan . I hope your recovery happens sooner rather than later.

      Psychological state has much to do with the physical, so if things have been a bit rocky, it's no wonder you're not feeling your best - on both levels. It depends on what kind of person you are, but sometimes venting or just describing how you feel helps. The Hive might generally be a happy place, but this is your thread and your reality and there is no need to shy away from the feelings of pain, hurt or desperation. I think the check-in section of the Hive is the most pristine in that at least some people do describe their struggles and let-downs - and that's great. If all we would ever hear are happy thoughts and progress (which are also great!), it might just build more pressure and a feeling of not belonging, because crap happens to all of us. We may deal with it differently or feel it more acutely than another person would in a similar situation, but there are no perfect lives out there, just a lot of people trying, each in their own way. I don't mean to pressure you into disclosing your internal thoughts, just don't feel like this isn't the place for you to do it because of others - because this is exactly the place to do it and possibly, get help or encouragement (albeit on the private chat). Take care, bunny.

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        So well said Ann-Core

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          Feel better soon

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            Thank you guys for your support.
            I think that's what I needed.
            Just few kind words and positive kick in the ass.

            I don't get any support from my family they just keep saying that I should stop exercising, because it's not good for me.

            No f*****g way I'll stop doing something that I love.

            Good night/day bees. Tomorrow I'll be back with some fitness.

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              Matan I get your point very well... Sorry if I will rant a little... Don't expect any support there when the scheme is that breaking your back working with a spade from dawn to dusk and have a few beers after is the way life is considered to go. Put things clearly out, if you are fit to work at the farm, you are fit to workout because that is the way you want it ! In my step family, working out is not only something useless like a pure time and energy loss,it is worse, it has only two explanations : A you are gay B you sin because of your vanity... Given that I have two children point A sort of closed itself quickly in the conversation... Point B was closed after my statement " I am not baptized, so if the bouncer at the Paradise's door thinks like you do, he won't let me in anyway, sin of vanity or not..." Must admit it kind of let a cold in the room but at a certain point...
              So what shall I say... don't think you have to argue or to convince people that don't want to... Do your duties like the good son you are and do your thing without caring about the opinion of other people... Would they be happy for you to be the "cliché" farmer boy with a broken back, a beer belly and single at age 40... I hope not, if so I am sorry for them because I know that this is not going to be your future...

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                xingyiquan I would like to answer your post, but I don't really know...

                One thing i know for sure is that you've hit a weak spot (really weak).

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                  Originally posted by I-Matanjah View Post
                  xingyiquan I would like to answer your post, but I don't really know...

                  One thing i know for sure is that you've hit a weak spot (really weak).
                  my intent is certainly not to hurt you Matan neither to make you feel bad... To be frank there is not really a good answer in words... What I see is that the agricultural world is changing but not as fast as the world surrounding it neither as fast as the mentalities specially between generations (strangely I see the same kind of stuff between all the countries I got involved in my life, be it Germany where I grew up, Turkey where my family comes from, France where I live and Italy where my wife comes from- The mentality, generational conflict, trouble is always very similar) .
                  To me the best answer you can give, is to be happy and to go on your way... You are a great guy that is trying to do his thing while having to cope with a reality that is not ready for that yet but sooner or later it will come.
                  Don't let yourself be dragged down...and most of all go on your way.

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                    Done today:

                    ~30 Days of Strength Day 13: Legs (LVL I)
                    I'll keep it short, I guess I need another week off from running.

                    And... I'll try to be happy xingyiquan . I promise.

                    Good night/day bees! ​​​​​​​

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                      I am sorry to hear that you have to miss out on running - positive vibes going your way >|<

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                        Originally posted by I-Matanjah View Post
                        Thank you guys for your support.
                        I think that's what I needed.
                        Just few kind words and positive kick in the ass.

                        I don't get any support from my family they just keep saying that I should stop exercising, because it's not good for me.

                        No f*****g way I'll stop doing something that I love.

                        Good night/day bees. Tomorrow I'll be back with some fitness.
                        I am so sorry you have to deal with a family that doesn't actually care about what makes you happy.

                        The usual cliche is "don't listen to them, and do your own thing" but speaking from experience it is much easier to live your own life when you have your own money and your own place.

                        Best wishes.

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                          Last three days were, well, classic, f****d up.
                          I haven't had time/was too lazy/tired to exercise.

                          Only "workout" I did was hide and seek with doggies (throw a ball, run into bushes, squat, wait, repeat) to keep my streak alive.

                          I'm trying to thing positive, but well... I can't.
                          Physically I feel pretty good right now, but mental health is getting worse and worse.

                          Generally speaking, there's nothing that makes me happy, I'm forcing myself to do things that I usually liked...

                          *sigh*

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                            That's tough, I-Matanjah.

                            Depression can be a serious business and you should seek help if you are experiencing a sustained low mood. Even having someone to talk to - outside your immediate family maybe - would be useful, I think. Even here! You don't need to apologise for posting "not positive" things - if you want to have a moan, have a good moan and get it out!

                            It's good you've got your dogs to play with - I'd do more of that!

                            I learned when I had bad depression that when we least feel like doing it is when exercise will probably do us most good! Which is bloody typical of life and a bit of a chicken-and-egg thing! But if you can get yourself to do something, even a small thing, you might find it breaks some barrier and you go on to do more and more.

                            I send you healing thoughts from the UK and really hope you're feeling better soon!

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                              my dear Matan ... sorry to hear that you go through harsh times.
                              Routine and tiny goals can be the best thing in your case. When following tiny things you can control, you can slowly put things back into your control and perspective. Don't accept simply to let your environment drag you down. Pick a few basic exercises and do a few sets of each and every day beat your previous day... Won't make you happy but at least it will bring you something you can control and that yields results... Step by step then may be other stuff might follow...

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                                I think I've been where you are now when I was in high school... sorry to hear you are going through such hard times, I really know what it feels like... you seem to be stuck in a big black hole forever. For me starting my life in a different environment helped, though I know it's easier said than done.

                                Hang on there, mate!!! Life is not always easy, I know...

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