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    Elimination Diet

    After posting on the Hive for the first time and getting amazing responses, I decided I need to really work hard at changing. I came away with GREAT advice that I can incorporate immediately. Afterwards, I had the opportunity to speak with a Naturopathic doctor. After I poured out my heart, she broke it! Hahaha. Per the doctor, I need to go on an elimination diet to get my gut microbiome back on track. The problem is, I need to eliminate pretty much EVERY FOOD KNOWN TO MAN! Jokes. But, almost literally.

    I have to eliminate nightshades, dairy products, pork, fish, the sunflower family, sugar, and gluten.

    Question to the Hive - What CAN I eat? In theory I know, but my brain can't wrap itself around these changes. Also, is there a meal plan anyone knows of for this?

    Thank you all so much!

    #2
    I would get a second opinion.
    Night Shade is a big family containing both potatoes and tomatoes. Two pretty diffrent plants, I would want a really good explanation why all if them need to go. Dairy is great to eliminate from your diet if you are intolerant, but fermented dairy is one of the best ways to introduce good bacteria to your gut.
    This is just my opinion and it's coming from a guy who takes a dim view of what can politely be called alternative medicine.

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      #3
      Agree on that second opinion thing. Dairy products can only be bad if you are intolerant. Same with gluten. And nightshade, pork and fish... why? I can't even find a logical reason to that. I only agree on the sugar, but because literally anyone can say that you should quit sugar and it will be always be the truth.

      Taking a look at that "naturopathy" thing, I can see that is defined as "alternative pseudo-scientific medicine", not regulated in some countries, and even illegal in some states of EEUU.

      So... my advice would be getting a second opinion from an actual doctor. A Not-Alternative-Pseudo-Doctor, if possible.

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        #4
        HumanMonster and JMed, thank you for your advice! I will ask more questions as to why the different food groups have been suggested. Also, I will be serious about little sugar. Hahahaha. It's so difficult. But, I will do my best

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          #5
          Yes, you should ask more questions about, what diet is recommended, and you also should ask the one who recommended it.

          I only have basic information about a so called Elimination Diet by SwolenormousX. And the principle seems to be to eliminate all non essential food for a period of time to cleanse the system. Then step by step reintroduce the singular food classes to your body, to see if it is good for you or not...

          What means you don't have to quit all food forever...

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            #6
            HellYeah Yes! You are exactly right. I will only have to cut out the food for a short period of time (thankfully 🎉) The reason is to more or less see if I'm allergic to any of the foods and if so, I will then remove them permanently from my diet. In this way, with this renewed, clear understanding, I can do it! Thank you for your comment.

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              #7
              I would see a dietician - like an actual, registered dietician (RD).

              Not to step on any toes, but naturopathy, homeopathy, etc - most of the "alternative" therapies are bunk with little to no evidence on their side other than (sometimes questionable) anecdotes. I understand trying to isolate a food allergen if you swelled up and/or had trouble breathing after eating - if it's something more benign, I'm suspicious.

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                #8
                Baston I don't mean to sound naive, but I actually hadn't thought about seeing a Registered Dietician about it. Being that diet is their forte, I'm sure they could offer me more information! Thank you for the advice.

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                  #9
                  While I agree that you should look into a second opinion, I just wanted to walk through the merits of an Elimination Diet. It's not a particularly profound recommendation and if that's all you got out of that encounter, I wouldn't go back.

                  The aim of this kind of diet is to get your gut back on track, yes. It's why diets like Whole30 are so popular. People tend to tout them like it's the miracle cure for their SIBO and IBS.

                  Nightshades These are just a common food sensitivity(like a non-life threatening food allergy, it mostly just screws with your gut). Since you were bemoaning being allergic to seemingly everything, this person probably thought it would be a good idea to eliminate this food group.

                  Dairy Also another common sensitivity.

                  Pork This one was new to me but a quick google search says it's mostly because they are disease-ridden and gross. I would think that cooking it would mostly solve that but maybe not?? I know, personally, that antibiotic treated animals give me mild dermatitis when prepping. But I don't really experience these problems after cooking it. *shrug*

                  Sunflower If I had to guess, it's the high amount of omega 6 that tends to be in these products. Omega-6 is a common gut irritant. I don't know why they would single out Sunflower, though? Seed and Vegetable oils, in general, tend to be relatively high in o6. If you want to get sucked down a wormhole, try googling "omega 6 omega 3 ratio."

                  Sugar and Gluten are both common gut irritants.

                  Commonly, the Elimination Diet lasts for about a month. At which point, you are welcome to add these things back into your diet, one at a time, to try and figure out what your trigger foods are. If you decide you still want to try an elimination diet, you can google Whole30 and Paleo AIP(Auto-immune Protocol) recipes. If you want to avoid pork, you can always substitute the pork in a recipe with chicken or turkey.

                  I've been doing Paleo off and on for a few years and would be happy to answer any follow up questions you may have.

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                    #10
                    DunkinDaemons WOAH! 🎉 I am SO GRATEFUL for your analysis!!! Honestly, your comment made me want to push ahead and get through it more than ever!!! I still haven't began because it's hard cutting out everything where I live. We eat soy sauce for MANY things and that's an excellent source of gluten... Hahahaha. But, I really do want to figure out what's going on with my body. I know that things usually happen from the inside out and I have started to have outward manifestations of not eating well. If this will get me on the right track, only be for a month as I figure out what's wrong, and lead to better gut health, I'm all for it.

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                      #11
                      happybee - Happy to help. I'm in the medical field and can tell you first-hand that the VAST majority of doctors spend very little time in their training on nutrition. We get a lecture or two and some broad guidelines, but there are generally better clinicians out there to focus on diet/nutrition - unless your doctor has a passion for nutrition or something, haha.

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                        #12
                        happybee

                        Happy to help! As long as you're focusing on eating lots of real food (veggies, fruit, meat), you should be good. And this sort of diet does have a soy sauce substitute: coconut aminos! It's a bit saltier and thinner than regular soy sauce but the flavor is very similar.

                        Good luck on your health journey! If you have any questions, I'm here for you. I'm a master of substitutions when it comes to modifying normal recipes.

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                          #13
                          Baston Hahahaha! As someone definitely NOT in the medical field, I must say - You'd think training on nutrition would be more important and intensive, right? I would think they'd want to put a bigger emphasis on it. In the few years I've been alive, nutrition is the cause of at least 40% (I made this up, but it feels right ) of the problems I've had. Past genetics and random occurrences (think - burns, cuts and scrapes), nutrition is a huge part of the reason why we get sick and if not the reason, sometimes it can be the solution. Thank you for following up!

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                            #14
                            happybee - It's tricky. I agree with you, but I see the other side in that people also have to graduate at some point, right? Lol. Good luck to you!

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                              #15
                              DunkinDaemons How have I not responded? I'm sorry! Thank you for your support and the substitutions! I will definitely be reaching out to you if I'm stuck in the near future. Especially because, after some research, your suggestion of coconut aminos sounds amazing!

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