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    Still Struggling With Diet

    I have a history of disordered eating which is probably contributing to this.

    Whenever I try to make any sort of change to my diet... it backfires - psychologically. I become temporarily obsessed with what to do, which leads to procrastination or just outright failure.

    Its not that I can't do it. It just becomes so obsessive ...for like... an hour or two, that I just 'give up' and don't do it. I become mentally tired out from thinking about it.

    I'm trying now to make the changes gradual. But I lose interest very quickly. So lowering my sugar in my tea by half a teaspoon every week might be less stressful than taking it away altogether, but I lose interest because of the time it takes. This is just an example of how it goes. (I don't actually use sugar in tea)

    When I'm not trying to do anything, it doesn't bother me - but when I'm not trying, my diet isn't so great. I either eat way too much or way too little, and if I were to eat whatever whenever right now, it'd probably be a gallon of coffee, half a bread (just dry) and 5 heaped teaspoons of peanut butter.

    Any suggestions to help this problem?

    #2
    While this might need more help than friendly advise you might just need to find the method that appeals to you.

    For example I'm a numbers whore so I count and weigh everything. When I'm getting a little worn out I will stop weighing a meal and just guess (I'm pretty good at it by this point) for a month or I will pick a macro (generally fat because I don't tend to eat enough) and make sure I hit that target and forget about the rest. When I'm feeling motivated I go all out and set a goal (gain, maintain, or lose) and hit that.

    There are tons of different methods out there you just need to find yours.

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      #3
      In my situation I eat more when I've been working hard such as heavy weights or when I worked for a builder. When I was only doing Yoga and Tai Chi I would eat much less naturally.

      My advice is to somehow plan a weekly meal plan and stick to it. When we go grocery shopping we buy pretty much the same stuff every week, the veg and fruit, some meat and fish, milk eggs bread.

      Fruit is apples, pears, bananas, then sometimes something in season like peaches. Veg is mainly broccoli, zucchini, sometimes cauliflower, string beans, asparagus. salad stuff like long cucumber, lettuce, tomatoes.

      There's potatoes, onions, pasta/noodle and basmati rice, not every week. We make juice so buy carrots, beets, ginger and celery. We use that juice in smoothies and add lettuce, cooked kale, peanut butter, nuts and seeds.

      We buy walnut pieces, cashews, pumpkin seeds, dates, prunes from the bulk food store.

      I think just make a meal plan and no cakes or such, maybe if you go out and have coffee some place have banana walnut cake as a treat but don't keep that in the house. Basically we stick to a plan between me and me wife.

      Meat can vary a little, often there will be a fish meal, chicken. Steak not very often, Beef liver sometimes.

      So there's my breakfast, lunch and supper. evening snack can be PB&J on toast, bread is usually sprouted whole grain kind.

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        #4
        One of the things that I discovered is not what you eat but also when you eat. One of the major changes I have made is to make huge breakfasts, but to not eat them before 10 AM (I realize this is not an option for everyone). Breakfast is usually two plates full, one "savory plate" and one "sweet plate". The "savory plate" usually has the following in some variety: eggs or baked beans, toast, small bit of protein (fish or poultry), a salad or cut tomatoes. The sweet plate has the following: toast with almond butter and/or sunflower seed butter, a bunch of fruit.

        I am new to this site and still looking around, but what I found to be interesting is the hero meal plan. My breakfast is basically two of such meals combined together, with the right proportions (salad and fruit take up half the plates). Because I eat late, I also don't feel hungry until supper time.

        This is just an example, but the body can be programmed to expect foods at certain times, and if it gets them regularly at the same time then it adapts, and cravings at other times go away.

        Incidentally, this breakfast is my favorite meal of the day, and makes other brunch like meals (waffles, eggs benedict) pale in comparison.

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          #5
          Gradual changes are a very good idea - the real problem is losing interest, as you say. The reason you're losing interest is that your expectations are set too high (which is - probably - also why you're obsessing if you make bigger changes). You're going into it expecting changes that you're then - of course - not getting at the speed you're expecting them.

          Totally understandable, of course. I've got a lot of history with this kind of thing.

          A way out that I've found effective is to deliberately hold yourself back from even beginning to make changes. Tell yourself: I'm not going to even start making gradual changes until I'm so thoroughly convinced I'm not expecting too much that it's 1500% guaranteed to work out. In fact, hold yourself back another week once you're convinced. Only then begin to make those gradual changes.

          This may sound like a silly way to do something, but I've solved some rather significant issues this way. Worth a try, maybe! Good luck!

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            #6
            Originally posted by jast View Post
            Gradual changes are a very good idea - the real problem is losing interest, as you say. The reason you're losing interest is that your expectations are set too high (which is - probably - also why you're obsessing if you make bigger changes). You're going into it expecting changes that you're then - of course - not getting at the speed you're expecting them.

            Totally understandable, of course. I've got a lot of history with this kind of thing.

            A way out that I've found effective is to deliberately hold yourself back from even beginning to make changes. Tell yourself: I'm not going to even start making gradual changes until I'm so thoroughly convinced I'm not expecting too much that it's 1500% guaranteed to work out. In fact, hold yourself back another week once you're convinced. Only then begin to make those gradual changes.

            This may sound like a silly way to do something, but I've solved some rather significant issues this way. Worth a try, maybe! Good luck!
            That's quite hard to do... because I'm always trying to do SOMETHING.

            In any case, I've noticed that when I actually try to do nothing at all, my diet seems to be better, at least in terms of quantity. Quality wise its not so good.

            Exercise isn't the problem anymore. That's habit already.

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              #7
              How's this going Nevetharine? Any progress?

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                #8
                Hi enigmatic319

                Well it's all gone to shit now for the past 6 days. Since we moved from one hotel to another room. We have no cooking facilities. At all. Not even a fridge. That said, I have managed to keep my diet vegetarian. But we've made some terrible choices for convenience's sake. And I'm starting to feel it. Exercise? There's no room for it. And the people with whom we live have so kindly asked me to not exercise because it causes noise. (high knees jumping jacks etc)

                So, I'm eating like crap, and just sitting around all day. In the next month or so, we will probably move AGAIN. Hopefully things will get better from there on.

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                  #9
                  Sometimes, circumstances suck & this is obviously one of those times. The fact you're eating vegetarian is still great. Can you do any kind of strength "silent" exercise. Squats, lunges, plank or push - ups? Even if you did 5 each per day, it'd still be 100% better than no exercise? Just trying to think "damage control" until you can exercise in a better place. Keep it up!

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                    #10
                    enigmatic319 if I could have my way I would be eating vegan now. The only reason I can't is because we don't even have a fridge. If we had a fridge, I could've bought canned beans/lentils and stored them (since I can't eat so much at once, I need to train my body to digest that stuff).

                    And we can't afford the more expensive vegan foods. It has to be simple to be affordable - legumes, beans, veg, fruit, wholegrains. That's it. Maybe some soy protein as a supplement and b12.

                    Anyway, that's not happening, so right now my protein sources are peanut butter and eggs. And milk.

                    Someone suggested on my other thread that I do combat exercises. I don't like them much because so much coordination is involved that I can't really let myself go and enjoy the flow of it. But if that's the only quiet option, well maybe I should just suck it up and do it.

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                      #11
                      Can you do oats with almond milk, or even water & cinnamon? I remember a quote, (attributed to Lee Haney), who said you could get all 12 amino acids from bean - paste sandwiches! I tried Googling it, but it's probably a myth. Worth a shot though.

                      You're the only person, (that I've interacted with on Darebee), that appears to have similar issues with food to me (although I'm not any sort of Vegetarian / Vegan). So, that is why I was asking, & wanting to help. Rather than going nuts with the cardio, there's loads of purely "Strength" &"Tendon" workouts here.

                      I just don't want to see you go backwards, even though you're not necessarily going forwards at the moment. I'm hoping for you. I've got to hope for someone!

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                        #12
                        Ah thanks enigmatic319 . Yeah well the food issues are still as prevalent as ever. I think even more so now, because it's such a damn stress!

                        I've got to add in some fasting again, too. My husband scanned me just now and my insulin is in pre-diabetic level. Although I'm sure a part of that is attributed to stress alone, I don't want to play around with my health. It's amazing how much damage stress + few days of unhealthy eating can do!

                        I guess peanutbutter sandwhiches (minus the jam) and microwaved oats aren't too bad for lunch. Dinner would be veg and eggs. I've got an egg boiler, so that's convenient.

                        Anyway, thanks much for caring! I honestly wish we could just settle down somewhere. We are both worn out from being blown from one place to the next all the time.

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                          #13
                          This has nothing to do with nutrition, but maybe it's an idea for getting a brief rest from your stress: Whenever I start to feel sick of it all, especially stress, I place a blanket on the floor in front of a wall (or door), lie down on it and scoot as near as possible with my butt to the wall and place my legs against it (forming a 90° angle with my body on the floor and my legs against the wall, like so: _I ). It's a bit awkward at first and I couldn't do it for long, but while doing so, I just try to relax, maybe focus on my breathing, or let my thoughts drift (without focusing on them). Kinda like meditating. It really helps me and you can do it almost everywhere.
                          And if you can't do cardio but want to enjoy some flow, how about some yoga workouts? Flexibility is also a nice asset to have.
                          I'm keeping my fingers crossed to the max that life's going to settle down for you and your husband really soon.

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                            #14
                            I had that situation of no cooking facility for some weeks some years ago. Do you have an electric kettle for boiling water? You can prepare a lot of warm dishes by adding hot water. Carbs: Instant couscous, oatmeal, even noodle soup (if you buy really thin noodles). Protein: Soy granules. Vegetables: cut in small pieces, then put hot water on it and wait for some minutes. It works with peppers, carrots, broccoli, zucchini.

                            Protein sources when you don’t have a fridge: Canned fish, hard boiled eggs, nuts and seeds.

                            Has your place a staircase? Stair running is a good cardio workout.

                            Have you tried the silent collection: https://darebee.com/collections/silent-workouts.html

                            Stay strong, the situation will get better!

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                              #15
                              Nihopaloa that's a yoga pose too, isn't it? Unfortunately there's no open wall where I can do that here... the place is quite cluttered. But yoga is nice... it just doesn't always feel enough to me. Too slow sometimes.

                              Kaleo yes we do have a kettle and also a microwave. So I can cook in that. But I can't cook a lot because we have no fridge. And beans, well they can't be done in the microwave. Lol, though lentils can! I've discovered lentils work really well in the microwave - just so long as you use a glass bowl. I lost a plastic lid with this experiment...

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