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  • TimPaige
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    As for me, I'm taking it very serious and the quarantine time I've tried to spend as productive as possible. The first few days I was in prostration and didn't really understand what happened. But then, a few days later it hit me. The virus is real and people spread it without even knowing about it. That is why I ordered a whole pack of KN95 masks at once and have with me every time I go out at least 2 of them, just in case..

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  • Kaleo
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    On this page there is some helpful advice

    https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/art...67e63-51362063

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  • sg135
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    Hi ThreeHens, simply put recovered coronavirus patients can be left with damaged lungs. We don't have enought data yet - Covid-19 medicine is currently being done on the line of duty, based on experience and the few authopsies done.

    A small study of 12 Hong Kong patients discharged from hospital showed that that in some patients lung function could decline by about 20 to 30% after recovery. However, it is too early to confirm any long-term effects.

    That's all we know at the moment. Further investigations of the recovered COVID-19 patients must be conducted to show whether they have developed pulmonary fibrosis, e.g. scarring in the lungs. Over time, the scar tissue can destroy the normal lung and make it hard for oxygen to get into the blood. Low oxygen levels (and the stiff scar tissue itself) can cause shortness of breath.
    Lung fibrosis cannot be cured because the scarred changes in the lung tissue do not regress. But the progression of pulmonary fibrosis can be delayed and sometimes even stopped if detected in time.

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  • PETERMORRIS966
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    sg135 Well stated, Thank you.

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  • ThreeHens
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    sg135, I am not familiar with any doctors, so would you mind telling me if this virus causes permanent negative changes in lungs even for those who managed to defeat it? Have heard of something that kind, but it seems like our authorities don't want to give any clear enough comments on the disease's consequences, so I'd like to know more. Thank you in advance.

    Would also like to add, sg135 is absolutely right, the virus kills not only elderly people: about half of the people that died from Corona in Russia were in their forties or close to it. So, please, don't leave your homes without urgent need.

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  • sg135
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    thepresident and Fremen made reasonable comments, particularly in their early posts.

    I am a medical doctor working in a community hospital. In Italy (and France, UK, USA...) all elective procedures have been cancelled, but Covid-19 is very infectious and spreads easily, hospitals are reaching-have reached full capacity in taking care of patients, at every level (urgencies, emergencies, Covid-19 related cases). Don't forget that people go on getting affected by diseases that require hospital admission, we have to try treating them too, obviously this dreadful situation has generated a huge work overflow.

    Mind you, this virus kills, no matter how young you are. If you are ≤ 60 years-old and without comorbidities, odds are in your favour to get only mild symptoms, but age is not an assurance.
    Don't bet on your age and health, and think about the age and the comorbidities of your contacts. You must avoid spreading the infection and you could be a Covid-positive without symptoms.
    Most countries are adopting the lockdown strategy, which is a good one.

    This virus kills, so stay home as much as possible and go out only if strictly necessary possibly wearing a face mask, either a home-made or a normal surgical one.
    This virus kills, and kills doctors and nurses alike, kills those who have to go on doing their jobs and who are getting in contact with other people, many times with Covid-19 positive people.
    Be kind to these workers, and stay home because this virus kills.
    I hope to have made my points.

    Take care and stay on the safe side.

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  • ThreeHens
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    thepresident, well, looks like your universities are prepared better, since they already have some platforms for exams. Meantime, this case was the first major switch to studying online in my country, and many universities obviously had neither experience nor equipment and tools for it (there are still lots of old-fashion Soviet-style educational structures here). This is not the case with mine, which pretends to be the most technically advanced in Russia, and that's pretty fair, but I still can't see the way to hold an online language exam, though usual language classes are quite easy to organise via the Internet.

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  • thepresident
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    [QUOTE=ThreeHens;n673808]

    What is, as I've said, stupid, is that many people here regarded the first week of quarantine as a sort of holiday and went on picnics with friends (the weather was fine before Monday), making themselves an ideal target for the virus. It's also even more silly, [\QUOTE]

    The same in Italy.

    [QUOTE] overwhelmed supermarkets long before the quarantine was established, dragging anything eatable they could (there were some shortages at a time which created a case for memes), albeit these lads obviously were not like restricting themselves from spending time outdoors. [\QUOTE]

    First week in Italy there are 2 type of behaviours: (i) people who take everything from the markets and (ii) the ones who went to the markets 3-4 times in a day only to have a motivation to go outside their house.
    Lucky, such behaviours are decreasing rapidly, because the market and supermarket have no problems about supplies.


    [QUOTE] It is such a shame that people severely underestimated the danger regarding it as a new sort of flu. For example, there was some stupid video advice like protecting yourself from coronavirus with alcohol (time for a joke about vodka) [\QUOTE]

    I think that the number of fake news are growing everywhere and they are dangerous.

    Obviously, the economy won't benefit from this, and that's another concern among many of us here.
    The economy during this pandemia problem and after that is a big problem.

    . Guys from the study office even went as far as planning to hold the summer exams completely online. Can't imagine how it would work. By the way, studying via the Internet is really a lot easier, I even stay in bed during online classes
    From my experience, recording university classes without university structure is very difficult. I have to redesign all the lesson and their structur. It's very urder to teach to my students the art of programming without a real-time interaction.

    In Italy, the university have define a set of protocols for online examinations, all the university has an own one that is different from the other ones. I do not do yet an online examination and I hope that there will no technical problems. It will be a "brave new" experience




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  • ThreeHens
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    Here in Russia we have a nice mix of clever and stupid decisions being made by authorities and locals at the same time. The quarantine is now very strict, especially in Moscow, where I live, and some regions are even closed from the outer world. I am not in a group of risk, yet my grandparents whom I live with are, as well as my mother who has been an avid smoker since her youth. Staying at home is not a problem, we've prepared a stock of some essential supplies such as flour, pasta, buckweat and the infamous toilet paper
    Yet I have to go to supermarket from time to time in order to buy some milk, eggs and stuff like that. I really try to make it safer by shopping when the number of people there is low, plus I wear a sort of a mask made from cheesecloth and wash hands all the time (we have antiseptic dispensers installed in the local supermarket).

    The number of cases is growing really fast now, though at first it seemed like we'll stay aside from pandemic. The medics tried to rapidly quarantine everybody with a virus, but now it has become very difficult and many guys from medical stuff are now infected too.

    What is, as I've said, stupid, is that many people here regarded the first week of quarantine as a sort of holiday and went on picnics with friends (the weather was fine before Monday), making themselves an ideal target for the virus. It's also even more silly, because the same people overwhelmed supermarkets long before the quarantine was established, dragging anything eatable they could (there were some shortages at a time which created a case for memes), albeit these lads obviously were not like restricting themselves from spending time outdoors. It is such a shame that people severely underestimated the danger regarding it as a new sort of flu. For example, there was some stupid video advice like protecting yourself from coronavirus with alcohol (time for a joke about vodka)

    Now there is a wide media campaign agitating people to stay at homes in safety, while the government is building a network of ad hoc hospitals across the country and stricting laws against those who infect others like that dumb guy from Syktyvkar. And, what's kinda fun, though we're staying at home until the end of April at least, the government ordered to pay salaries anyway. Obviously, the economy won't benefit from this, and that's another concern among many of us here.

    Anyway, I am pleased with the opportunity to stay at home and do what I like, as there are days-off for the students of my university now. Guys from the study office even went as far as planning to hold the summer exams completely online. Can't imagine how it would work. By the way, studying via the Internet is really a lot easier, I even stay in bed during online classes

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  • dopaw
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    I was in funk for a minute but I just pray and deal with it.

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  • PETERMORRIS966
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    Fremen That's awesome!

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  • PETERMORRIS966
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    Nihopaloa You stay safe too.

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  • Fremen
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    These are the employees of an Italian supermarket who stop to sing the Italian anthem and invite customers to do the same

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  • Nihopaloa
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    Originally posted by PETERMORRIS966 View Post
    Today the Fire Dept drove through the City playing “Oh Canada” over the loud hailer, to boost community morale. Awesome!🇨🇦
    I'm a little envious, really. Just imagining something like this in Germany seems more bizarre than anything else. I don't even want to think about the reactions to this from various sources because I would probably fall from the chair laughing so hard.

    Stay safe, PETERMORRIS966

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  • PETERMORRIS966
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    Today the Fire Dept drove through the City playing “Oh Canada” over the loud hailer, to boost community morale. Awesome!🇨🇦

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