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    Guests are constantly rising...Why?

    I am a bit suspicious, why is the number of guests going nuts?
    neilarey Damer

    #2
    HellsYeah we are not sure. The site's traffic is exactly what it would normally be. I have flagged this up so we can examine if there is an issue. Thank you for tagging me here.

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      #3
      I recently just found out about DareBee about last month, greatest website to come across, but i did notice then it didnt seem like there was as much people as now! Glad to see theres people joining in on the fun this team puts in fitness, only a 2 letter difference from funness

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        #4
        neilarey and Damer,

        I have been thinking about the previous posts that have been popping up in and out of threads about people just coming across this website. I suggest that the Darebee Team should take a responsible risk and try spread the word of this absolutely fantastic website. I that many ideas of my own but I suggest maybe putting an ad or something on the internet or something like that. Or maybe you guys could each print off 100 small pamphlets and try to hand them out to people at the entrance to gyms or supermarkets. You get the picture.
        I would also like to make another suggestion that you guys should make a program based off these two cool movies / TV shows, Shadowhunters, and the Hunger Games.

        I hope you two take this abroad in your group of awesome team and put it to action

        Cheers,
        Milkman

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          #5
          Milkman 4 abs I can't agree with you on that. Darebee is a great site, and I think it's better that it is found by accident, or by word-of-mouth. I, for one, have raved about the site to a few people, stressing the non-commerciality of it, which I love. Who isn't sick of ads popping up over every site they go on?! I think as soon as you make pamphlets, people have certain expectations. Not saying that they won't be met by Darebee (my expectations have certainly been exceeded), but perhaps people who are drawn by ads (and that costs money) might want more. Darebee is certainly not exclusive - in fact, I find it way more inclusive than many other sites, and it's probably because of the whole Community of Bees here - but it is perhaps a slightly hidden treasure. Treasure seekers will find Darebee, and certainly word-of-mouth and personal recommendations can do way more than random ads that few people will actually pay any attention to.
          That's just my tuppence worth.

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            #6
            Milkman 4 abs and TopNotch thank you both for the suggestions and for this terrific discussion. All of us on the DAREBEE team appreciate the passion you guys bring when you make such suggestions and we strive to help you become the best possible versions of yourselves inside and out. TopNotch is right in that we believe The Hive is something truly special. A place where our DAREBEE values can flourish without any of us aggressively pushing or promoting anything. neilarey who is the founder of DAREBEE believes firmly that fitness is a right, not a privilege. For far too long it has been kept behind gatekeepers who 'sold' something: membership, equipment, gear, knowledge, ads, data grab - whatever. We believe that such an approach taints our prime directive: to judge everything we do on the basis of whether it is of real value to you, our DAREBEE members.

            We also believe that our success or failure will be judged by how successful we are on that score alone. If we do our job right, every DAREBEE member becomes a DAREBEE advocate. They bring us more people, help with donations, explain our core values and spread the word in an organic, sustainable way that does not create any commercial pressure or drive, This approach, which is admittedly challenging, keeps us honest and accountable to you (not a brand, an ad campaign or anyone who has deep pockets - and each month we receive countless offers like these). If we stop being of value donations will dry up, the costs of running this site and maintaining it will become overwhelming and we shall then go away.

            What makes DAREBEE special then is the approach and philosophy the team has and the amazing passion and values you guys bring in. We are special because you are. Our success is tied into your activities, your success to become better versions of who you are is tied into ours. There is nothing truly collaborative like this anywhere on the web. To say that it weighs upon us and motivates us each day is to understate it. We can never thank you enough for your thoughts, suggestions (which are always well-intentioned) and passion. We reciprocate in equal amounts and truly think that each of us, acting in small ways, adds to a global collective that changes the world into a better place by changing perceptions, values and behavior in small but really important ways.

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              #7
              Intresting in what direction this thread went...

              The reason why I started it was an unusual and consistent rise of guest users in a short amount of time, so I was suspicious, if there could be another attack.

              For sure, every bee should make darebee more popular, but a agree with the team, when it comes to ads and everything.

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                #8
                I want to bring a different point to the whole discussion of making Darebee (slightly) more popular:

                Personally, I'd really like to recommend the site to (the admittedly few) people I know. Problem is: their English is bad at best, and nonexistent at worst. While it might not be the biggest obstacle when it comes to just picking up a program or workout and follow the pictures, it poses more of a problem that important articles (like how to choose a workout, everything about fitness and nutrition) are out of the picture. Now I know that translating all of that would be difficult and designing the mainpage around that would be bothersome, but maybe it can help to translate a few articles, or summaries of them, into other languages, to give those without the proper English skills a good start into fitness. Keeping the cost of translators in mind, some Bees might be able to voluntarily translate into their mother tongue (I, at least, feel confident in my ability to do that) with others of the same language cross-checking the translation.

                Just a thought I wanted to throw in, is all. Personally, I like Darebee the way it is and I also don't really see the need for "professional" advertising

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nihopaloa View Post
                  I want to bring a different point to the whole discussion of making Darebee (slightly) more popular:

                  Personally, I'd really like to recommend the site to (the admittedly few) people I know. Problem is: their English is bad at best, and nonexistent at worst. While it might not be the biggest obstacle when it comes to just picking up a program or workout and follow the pictures, it poses more of a problem that important articles (like how to choose a workout, everything about fitness and nutrition) are out of the picture. Now I know that translating all of that would be difficult and designing the mainpage around that would be bothersome, but maybe it can help to translate a few articles, or summaries of them, into other languages, to give those without the proper English skills a good start into fitness. Keeping the cost of translators in mind, some Bees might be able to voluntarily translate into their mother tongue (I, at least, feel confident in my ability to do that) with others of the same language cross-checking the translation.

                  Just a thought I wanted to throw in, is all. Personally, I like Darebee the way it is and I also don't really see the need for "professional" advertising
                  very, Very, VERY, VERY good idea...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nihopaloa View Post
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                    ... Keeping the cost of translators in mind, some Bees might be able to voluntarily translate into their mother tongue (I, at least, feel confident in my ability to do that) with others of the same language cross-checking the translation.

                    ...

                    The subforum in Spanish (almost dead), has a post about that, created only two months before I joined here. Unfortunately, the idea of translations it seems that never was done.

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                      #11
                      dear TopNotch and Damer,

                      Thank you for looking at that post and thinking about it. Now that I see the downside to professionally, or unprofessionally, advertising Darebee to the world I kinda feel a bit dumb.
                      The points you two have were probably very highly thought through, compared to my 10 minute thought rant.

                      But I still want to persist with Darebee members at least asking a couple of friends or family members to have a look on this site and see for themselves how great of a website it really is.
                      Also a shout out to Nihopaloa for another key suggestion that Darebee could work on.


                      Sleep on it and reply then,
                      Milkman

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                        #12
                        Being the native speaker of a lesser-known language of a country where the education of foreign languages (English included) is lacking, I couldn't agree more with Nihopaloa. (And as I'm studying Translation and Interpreting and aspire to become an intercultural mediator, I would gladly offer my time, especially as I can't (yet) offer my money.)

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                          #13
                          Nihopaloa ... I spent a week or so in Germany a while back, and a longer while in Japan before that ... the people I spoke to spoke excellent English.
                          Even the refugees in Germany - the only ones that were not 'perfect' - spoke better English than I speak any of the 'foreign' languages I can say "I don't speak ..." in. And their German was much better than mine. Not that that is any good at all.
                          Sometimes being an American can be humbling - when you find out all you don't know.
                          But ... don't tell he-who-ought-not-be-considered that. He'd be ... "unhappy". And bullies can get "nasty" when ... "unhappy".

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                            #14
                            The idea of multilingual versions of DAREBEE is something we are considering. Apart from the different language sub-forums in The Hive that are run by volunteers translating some aspects of DAREBEE into different languages requires we have a consistent, logical approach that delivers benefits to those who access it. To give you an idea of the scope of the challenge (and I am not even going to touch upon technicalities here) consider that DAREBEE's core mission is to ensure that fitness is a right and not a privilege. This means equal access to everyone regardless of status. If we commit to translating the site in say, German, we cannot then let language skills become a new type of gatekeeper. Realistically we will need to translate all of it into German and be able to support it the same way we do with the English-language version otherwise we are discriminating against those who speak German vs English. Now, you will say, is it not discriminatory now that is only in English? The answer is both yes and no. Yes, it is in the fact that you need to speak English to fully access its articles, diet plans and some programs, but no, it is offered fully in English and the non-English speaker has equal access to everything and the translate option in Chrome (or the browser of their choice) to help them access those parts of it that are more language-dependent. There is nothing that is hidden in the sense that it is partially accessible or not accessible at all because it has not been translated.

                            I understand this is a little bit of a philosophical quandary but it is how we think about the things we do and I am mentioning it to give you all a taste of the scope of the challenge.

                            Having said all this we are also at the stage where DAREBEEs feel strongly committed to our principles of access and equality. There are a lot of us here and if we, the guiding team, create a structured approach we may well manage to pull off a few language versions with the help of DAREBEEs, that do not create a barrier to access. I am going to bring up the idea internally again and see if we can come up with a workable plan. I'd like to say "Thank you!" to all of you who participated in this thread with your ideas and enthusiasm except "Thank you" seems insufficient for how I and the rest of the team feel about you guys. You're simply awesome!

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                              #15
                              Maybe the translations could be reduced to a mini getting started guide on how to use the site

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