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    Hello bees I have a request.
    So I just recently watched the game changers and, while my mind is made up, I was wondering if you know of any scientific evidence based research on the benefits of going plant based? It could be documentation on health or ethical reasons or environmental but I want to learn as much as I can about it from people who don't have an agenda (selling powders etc).

    Thanks

    #2
    Some info here . . .

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJR...ylJyf-HiBtqI2w

    https://youtu.be/gvmZ3RX17G8

    A speaker at our November 9th Veg Fest . . .

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoU...xNy2-y1bpcV-sg

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      #3
      From what my mother has told me, while humans are omnivorous, we have evolved to be mostly plant based, and because of this, eating meat so much is not what we were made for. back a long time ago, when we had to hunt and forage for food, we would not have meat very often, but nowadays, meat is to easy to get. leading to us eating to much of it. although I have done no research on the matter, and this is just an opinion. which should be taken like a grain of salt.

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        #4
        Glad to see that you are playing attention to what we post...

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          #5
          Originally posted by Ryuji View Post
          Glad to see that you are playing attention to what we post...
          More information is always better . I might not have read it because I prefer video over text but I think other peoples opinion and experience would help build a broader picture.

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          Just read it. Kinda. I read 2/3 of it but I got the jist.
          Last edited by Kakarot; October 28th, 2019, 05:29 PM.

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            #6
            I have had Vegetarian times though my life, back in 1973 for a fairly short period, I was doing Yoga and had a Vegetarian girlfriend. Again in the 90's I was into martial art and interested in Shaolin Monks (them being vegetarian), but working in a Jeep parts shipping warehouse lift heavy parts a lot it became painful to lift lighter stuff then as soon as I ate meat again the painful lifting stopped.

            I went 100% Vegan for 6 months but this time watching my diet very careful, I notice that lifting weights my strength did drop and knew I was back at the same problem I experienced in the 90's. then the next 6 months was transitioning back to Omnivore.

            I lived on the West Coast of Canada from 1978 to 89 and there was much more health food awareness and had tofu for the first time. When we had 2 kids we wanted them to grow up with healthy eating habits so kept a fairly healthy diet.

            We've been making our own juice from vegetables and some fruit and use that in smoothies that include greens, seeds and nuts for decades. Yes Game Changers brought back eating more Vegetarian meals into our diet (my wife and I) but don't think we will go all the way one way or the other.

            I don't want to get into eating mock meat like soy burgers, sausage, cheese or even fish. I had Vegetarian friends in England who lived of Heinz beans on toast and maybe a processed cheese slice or another friend who lived at home ate what the family had except the meat so basically spuds and canned veg.

            When we go out of town and drive through the country SW Ontario we see many fields with cows grazing, no big feed lots here.

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              #7
              Kakarot I haven't had meat for 2 weeks except fish twice and one egg and one cup of milk, but the last 2 workouts have been great. If I did the same weight the reps went up quite a bit, my last set (3rd) doing dumbbell bench press I use 2 - 50lb dumbbells and usually only do 5 0r 6 reps, today was the first time I did 9 reps, but remember I'm 67 and 146lbs.

              My arm workout was good but seem to lack the drive. Went to a potluck that was mostly vegetarian and there was chicken breast in gravy, it was so delicious. Today doing our shopping we added some meat, ground lean turkey, chicken breast slices and a box of frozen 4oz lean beefburgers and chicken breast sandwich slices. back to healthy omnivore.

              My bench press the other day went to 10 reps with the 50lb dumbbells.

              https://peterattiamd.com/191027/

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                #8
                Kakarot Since Game Changers film I've been seeing anti vegan vidz on YouTube like this guy . . .

                https://www.youtube.com/user/sv3rige/videos

                My City has gone very vegan friendly and the gluten free thing, my way now is I'm ok with natural vegetarian dishes but not into the vegan version of meat and cheese etc, if I have a pizza I want real good cheese and meat, same with breakfast, real sausage, eggs, bacon etc.

                One big dislike about the vegan restaurants is that they are expensive, I'd rather go to the Afghan restaurant and get a big plate of basmati rice, chopped cucumber and tomato salad and skewers of BBQ beef or chicken or lamb chops, they do make a great okra dish and potato, herb stuffed nann bread.

                I did vegan as a 30 day challenge then stuck with it for 6 months, the apartment building I live in has a Wednesday coffee hour with different groups doing some snack, on a men's group turn it was scrambled eggs and sausages, I just couldn't resist and had 2 helpings. I love sausages.

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                  #9
                  thinman there is defiantly a problem with both sides (vegan and carnivores). I think I am too uneducated in the vegan dietary lifestyle but my first exposure to veganism was not great, i seen a youtube video by "Vegan Gains" and he is nuts, he goes on videos with 12 inch butcher knifes and threatens meat eater.
                  I think I will watch Game Changers and then do my own research into the articles that are mentioned (but to be honest I'm too lazy so may not do this but if I have any free time I'll do it) but my brother watched it and went vegetarian for nearly a week and today he said his body didn't feel the same.

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                    #10
                    Kakarot I have watched many films through Netflix that are all about the food industry and for being very pro-Vegetarian/Vegan. I found that they seemed to cherry-pick their data. But I noticed that many of them excluded a point that was made to me in a nutrition class, that meat contains some essential amino acids that cannot be found in plants. It will have to be taken through supplements which can be a problem because some scientists have been debating if our bodies are able to absorb those nutrients in supplements as effectively. Again, I'm going based off the information I was told in a nutrition class in university. I don't have access to many scientific articles at the moment but I'll see if I can find some good articles.

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                      #11
                      https://www.strongerbyscience.com/ve...vegan-athlete/
                      Great research analysis from a great resource

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                        #12
                        AmazonianRookie your nutrition class was most probably referring to B12. It is the one vitamin that the body cannot synthesize. We get it from animal sources of food (primarily meat) but animals do not synthesize it either. They get it from bacteria in the soil. You may want to check out our article on protein, nutrition and the research studies we used as sources.

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                          #13
                          Kakarot The Game Changers – A Scientific Review with full Citations

                          By Meredith Root

                          https://tacticmethod.com/the-game-ch...nd-references/

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                          Meredith Root & Alex Parker We come from a background of sports and sports performance. We both learned early on the positive impact nutrition can have on performance.

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                            #14
                            I'll need to read some of these when I have nothing else to do. There's so much. Definitely before the new year.

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                              #15
                              AmazonianRookie Damer
                              It might have been fatty acid DHA.
                              An interesting article about the fact that human brain needs DHA and DHA cannot be synthesized by a human body and is found only in animals and algae.

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