Planning to Run over 2000 miles. Advice?

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    Planning to Run over 2000 miles. Advice?

    Hey everyone!

    So, last year, after many years in dabbling with running and training, I decided to take it serious and lost 50+lbs, ran my first half-marathon, and owe a large thanks to this site for helping me in those efforts.

    But I met my goals and found myself floundering for a new one, until now. I plan to run 2017 miles in the year 2017, and blog about it. Now I need to ask for some planning help to reach it.

    Anyone have any suggestions on how I should go about shaping my curve for miles and training regimen? I plan to run in the Glass City Marathon in late April, and peaked last year at 125 miles a month in my training. I'll need to hit an average of 168 miles a month to make my 2017 goal. Should I structure around multiple Marathons? Pepper in smaller races? Try to stretch beyond the Marathon distance?

    I know people have put in these kind of miles, so hopefully someone with some experience can chime in?

    #2
    Elsheran ... That equals almost a 10K (~6 miles) Every. Day. Of. The. Year.
    That's the training schedule for a 100 mile run!
    So ... I'M impressed! Best of luck!

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      #3
      Originally posted by DaithiMeyer View Post
      Elsheran ... That equals almost a 10K (~6 miles) Every. Day. Of. The. Year.
      That's the training schedule for a 100 mile run!
      So ... I'M impressed! Best of luck!
      You aren't wrong. BUT, if I schedule it out to have 17-20 mile long runs, 10 mile mid-long runs, and the occasional marathon, I think it would be possible with even having possible missed or light days.

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        #4
        First of all, hey! Another Red Mage from northern Ohio. What's up.

        I can't offer much advice since I've never done much distance running, but I'll tag some helpful folks who have done some personal running challenges that might have advice: EricThePersistent Azercord

        I'm not sure where the old posts from the old Running sub-forum went in the site redesign, but I know we had some folks posting about daily running there.

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          #5
          Britt0 would be another good contact.

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            #6
            Yeah I would definitely say setup a good schedule and start reading up on marathon and ultra training if you haven't already. Have you pushed anywhere close to these numbers before? 125 miles a month is a really good start so I'm assuming you aren't completely new to running.

            As long as you have the time to commit I think it is doable. I would recommend "Anatomy of Runners" by Jay Dicharry for injury prevention and a local running group if you can find one. They would be a good source of information, training, and motivation.

            Good luck and keep us posted for sure.

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              #7
              Thanks, Azercord ! I've got a fairly prominent running store in the area, Dave's Running, and their groups seem to be everywhere. I'm bumping my work and play schedule around a bit to make this (and the new writing/blogging habit) fit, but I think I can make it happen.

              I dabbled with running every summer for years, but never saw real progress because I never had real goals other than 'Be able to run without dying'. Last year I set the goals of Half-Marathon using the program on here and losing all the weight I did. But, when I hit those, I tagged forward to the Marathon training, then kinda lost sight of a goal after I completed that. So, definitely not new, but very new to anything over ~18 miles (my longest single run to date).

              I'll put that book on my short list, and look at Ultra-training. If anyone could link me to some good Ultra resources they already know of, I'd be much obliged.

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                #8
                Hi,
                I ran nearly this distance in 2016, and if you make running a priority, I think it is a good and reachable goal.

                my advice for you is to split the goal into several smaller goals.

                * set yourself a weekly distance minimum. It should be not to long, you should be able to reach this even in the most stressful weeks, it should be the absolute minimum, but also high enough that it helps you reach your goals. I would say around 30k, so you will have already the half of your goal if you only run the minimal distance each week

                * sign in for several races that keeps you busy and exited.

                * follow a 10 or 12 week trainings plan with a challenging goal (new personal best) towards the races. in this weeks you should have a much higher weekly distance than the minimum, at least twice, better three times the distance. And training plans will help you to go outside and run, even if you really don't feel like it.

                * after each race, give yourself a few weeks "off", to recover physically and mentally (but not forget about the weekly distance goal)

                * diversity is key. Try to keeps things interesting. sign in for different type of races, maybe a marathon in a far away city and an cross-cuntry half marathon, maybe some 5k or 10k in-between. try a running-streak for a month. run/train with a heart rate monitor and without, run at night, run with friends or a local running group, run with people who are faster than you, run with people who are slower than you, higher a trainer, run to work. Read books and listen to podcasts about running, this will help you to stay motivated.

                * expect the unexpected. try to reach the goal in 11 months, you will need this 4 extra weeks because of sickness etc.

                * recover recover recover!

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                  #9
                  .robert , this is excellent! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience with me. This sounds like a great strategy and I don't see any reason not to embrace it. Do you mind if I mention you and your assistance when I post my plan outline on Friday? Credit where due and all.

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                    #10
                    You're welcome, I hope this helps.
                    And yes, please feel free to mention this in your outline.

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                      #11
                      While you're doing all this please don't forget your friends and loved ones.
                      "Oh, I have an important run scheduled that day" is only okay as an excuse once a year, after that people will think you don't really care.
                      There will be birthdays, weddings, Christmas and other activities that you will have to plan around, if you do so ahead of time everyone involved will be better off.

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                        #12
                        Oh, I'm not too worried about that. My other half goes with me to the races as support, and other than work, I don't have much else that goes on regularly. Now, I do have to plan around spikes in work activity, however. I see a lot of sleep deprivation in my next 370 days.

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                          #13
                          Got that post up! Mentioned you .robert . (a little edit for clarity/grammar). Check it out if you want to see how I'm making up my 'Typical' week by which I will vary as needed to get my training and races done.

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                            #14
                            Honorata thanks for the tag. I'm still not really active on the forums since I'm still in recovery. Somehow as long as I can't run which doubles as warm-up for darebee routines I don't find myself pulled over here.

                            Since you are pushing distance, I have a concern about what .robert suggested. In my opinion while races are good for motivation, they are also very stressful on the body in comparison to simply running. Alone finishing those 2017 will be a hard challenge, and I fear the combination may prove devastating. You just can't afford to get injured during the year, else you won't be able to finish. A few races might be well, but I would not consider them goals and push it hard if you do not feel totally recovered.

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                              #15
                              Good point, EricThePersistent . Of course races, and training for them, can be tough, and if you don't listen to your body, you higher your risk of injury or "burn out". On the other hand, if you not participate in races or challenges, if you only run in your "sweet spot", you risk to get bored.

                              The outline above works for me. I like to have variety in my running, and I go to short 5k races as well as (Ultra-)Marathons, I run on street and on trails, and sometimes I just try other goals like running streak or whatever. variety is key (for me).

                              If your main goal is to run 2017 miles this year, you can use races as a tool to reach this, but they should not confuse them to be your main goal.

                              Some common sense once in a while helps

                              I wish you good luck.

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