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    Hello. I have gained 10kg weight over last year. It feels awful. I would like to mention that i struggle with my eating disorder(ARFID/SED), and so far i found some new things to eat.
    The problem is that these foods are mainly junk foods, or i if they are not i can tolerate them but would not be able to eat them often, or they just start making me feel sick or make me gag like they were not my safe food. I plan to start working out from today once more, though i have some questions. Is it even worth the effort if i still eat unhealthy, carb/fat rich foods? And if it is possible, then how much more would i need to train in comparison to a normal person? Currently my weight is around 71kg with height equal 168 cm. Fat went straightly to my lower belly/waist, maybe a little bit to tights. I planned to get back to training with 30 days of change, though i can't imagine how would i.e running make me burn at from belly.

    Sorry for bad english/self-complains.

  • #2
    You cannot out train a poor diet, but, that does NOT mean you should not train anyway.

    Hesitant to give actual diet advise bc of your eating disorder, but, someone did actually do a publicity stunt where he effectively lost weight on fast food only, just by monitoring calories. So if calorie counting won't trigger you, you can stick to your safe foods and still loose weight. Do you have access to a nutritionist who has worked with ed patients before to help guide you?

    Even without changing diet tho, by working out you will make your body stronger, faster, more functional..and maybe having a more capable body will help with eating disorder recovery.

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    • #3
      ARFID/SED is not popular disorder, especially in my country. My personal trainer on gym one year ago made diet plan for me, though as my foods are pretty much limited i had 1 variant of breakfast, 2 variants of dinner, and evening snack limited by calorie intake, necessity of concrete amount of protein, and then not limited by what i actually eat. The problem is, that i got bored really fast :/ i mean like... how could i eat scrambled eggs day by day forever, duh :/

      /edit: Also i heard that i could just listen to my body eating what i eat to determine if my body ate enough or not, though i do not trust myself in limiting just by thought.

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      • #4
        Could something like exposure therapy used to deal with phobias help you, maybe? But ya, I can see how you could get very bored if not many of your safe foods are nutritionally sound. Do you take a multivitamin? (I know those are not necessary w a ballanced diet, but, in this case..)

        Still, though, training can't hurt. Maybe you can't train as hard if getting enough protein is an issue for you, bc you don't want to break down muscle and not give body tools to rebuild them. But, you should still train imho.

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        • #5
          Protein intake is not huge problem for me as long as it means chicken, high protein joghurt or peanut butter I'm more scared about other nutritients, especially that i am addicted to snacks, so my fat/carb intake could probably be a problem. I don't take multivitamin.

          /edit: in terms of therapy there is ony one person i know that treats this disorder, though price is high, either skype/eye to eye session or dvd hypnotherapy

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          • #6
            You can change up how you make the eggs scrambled one day fried the next. Also if Milkshakes are a safe food use peanut butter ice cream with peanut butter and jelly and blend your own milk shakes that way (I know it sounds weird but trust me PB&J milkshakes are really good and very protein rich) I had to be on a Milkshake diet for 6 weeks due to having double compound fractured my jaw (both sides dislocated at hinges). I'm betting that might help you out plus if you add banana you can get your potassium that way which is really important as well you can also add protein powder to the milk shake to if you don't like or are allergic to nuts. I would also talk with your doctor about training and ask for a referral to nutritionist that you can see once a month or once every two weeks to discuss your food and your diet and a meal plan with your safe foods on it and that can be mixed up i.e. these are your healthy safe foods pick 3-4 a day to eat 3 for meals 1 for a snack separate column these are your junk safe food pick 1-2 a day for snack and then have a list of different recipes that can be made with your safe foods.

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            • #7
              As 'rin said, even without worrying too much about diet, working out will help you make improvements on your body. It's probably better to make one change at a time anyway, rather than try to overhaul your entire life at once. So start with exercise, and later you can think about the more stressful ED problem. (I have no suggestions on the eating disorder, but you may find that changing how active you are also changes how you feel about food.)

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              • #8
                Zyavaranah ... welcome.
                I'm sure ARFID/SED is not a 'popular' disorder anywhere, but that isn't the problem, is it.
                I eat eggs most days of the week. Every week. We put cheese and vegetables in them and cover with a 'sauce'. Seldom get bored.
                Your weight control issues can be covered with "portion control". And supplements. The supplements only because your limited choice of foods may not offer what you need.
                Best of luck.

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                • #9
                  A regular workout will not make a noticeable impact in your kilojoules, however being on your feet all day does, walking 10,000 steps every day does. Not to mention that working out regularly will make you look better, feel better and live better because you are healthier.

                  Unfortunately listening to your body for what it needs only works when you have been eating healthily for a while and don't consume sugar (because if you have sugar in your diet your body will always tell you you need more sugar). Any eating disorder will ruin that, as well as many things that aren't eating disorders.
                  I would say a kilojoule-tracking app would be right for you if you don't have problems with that.

                  Treatment for adults and children who have your disorder is mostly cognitive behaviour therapy, but I get the feeling that you will not be able to get a therapist where you live, possibly for money reasons?
                  But there is a relatively easy way to get a head start on getting better. You simply get a food, any food that you wouldn't normally eat, and then you put it in front of you and think about it rationally. There's no need to eat it so don't worry about that. Just think rationally about where it comes from, what nutrients it contains, why it is heated or maybe why it is not heated. Think about what continent or even country it comes from originally. It is all about forming a rational non-emotional image of the food in your head. You can do this one food at a time, but the important thing is that you keep emotions out of your thoughts at this time.
                  This is a good preparation for any support group or treatment you will have in the future. And practising to be rational about something you would normally be emotional about is a great thing for any person in any situation.

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                  • #10
                    What kinds of food are you able to eat? What kinds of concerns make other foods "unsafe" for you?
                    Maybe even a therapist, that is not specialized to that specific disorder can also help you?

                    By the way- your weight in relation to your height allows for keeping your weight +- a few kilos and still get in shape.

                    I am on a high carb/moderate fat and protein diet and it works pretty well.

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                    • #11
                      Yes it is.

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                      • #12
                        A good Mantra to adhere to. and it works wonders

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                        • #13
                          I've been reading this man's posts for a while and they're actually pretty good and science-backed. It's often said that you can't over exercise a bad diet but all depends in your caloric count at the end of the day: surplus and you'll gain weight, deficit and you'll lose.
                          http://www.bodyforwife.com/why-your-...oomed-to-fail/

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